Really short session this time, just a bit over an hour I guess.



Well, 38% w$wsf looks prettier than 32 certainly, but once again might be variance, will take a while before I can tell if I'm doing any better. Where in PTO can I see my cbet stat? Would be interested in knowing, feel like I'm getting c/red a fair bit. Maybe I'm over-cbetting (or perhaps just over-cbetting compared to my range, ie cbetting boards which are very hard to hit w a tight range).

A perplexing couple of hands:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487969 - Do I bet turn? On river, I guess he really isn't betting that many non-flush hands, and I only block the 2nd nuts with my queen.. But ugh I dunno. I certainly can't call and maybe he folds a baby flush or straight or something. Meh, probably not a great idea to bluff here :C
BUT, given this hand the next hand is absolutely shocking..

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/488006 - How do I NOT stack him here? It's just mindboggling!? I was sitting at my desk going "set of jacks set of jacks set of jacks set of jacks!!!". Then he just calls. With a set of jacks.
And to think I would probably raise this river with T8**, TJ**, probably not 88**.. Well given my last bluff, maybe I would/should?
Would raising flop, calling a 3bet and shoving any flushcard or board pair (actually if board pairs maybe I shouldn't shove.. that seems very unbalanced tho) be a good idea? Perhaps given my last bluff on a flushcard it wouldn't be a great idea to try that again, but in general. I suppose he could have a huge hand like set/fd if he 3bets the flop, but that would be pretty rare right?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487989 - This was shortly after the c/r river bluff, but I couldn't really find a c/r anywhere

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487990 - hm~~ I wasn't really thinking that far while in the hand, but /w my cold 3bet on this flop I might actually fold out 2nd or 3rd set?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487977 - Hm.. I'm not sure if I should raise flop or not, also not sure if I should call turn (since I have the fd) but probably ok to jam it too.. Given how he played the previous hand I didn't think he was terribly good =.= Well I dunno.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487959 - Hm. Think I should go for a river c/r or will people just check behind their medium flushes?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487960 - Didn't notice my 2nd 4 here or I would have probably led out. Given last hand, I hate the line

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487954 - I'm a little lost what to do in these spots. Board can't really get better for me (even an ace is deceptive). I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. He's like 25/4/10 over a small sample.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487935 - I was debating wether I should call preflop or not. The final word in my internal debate was "well.. it's sooo pretty!".

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487941 - Preflop I'm a lil unsure, only 1 fd and the gap is in the middle (I'm unsure how badly this hurt my hand). Flop, well, a very weak semi-bluff.. Turn he SNAP potted, I checked HH and noticed he'd played a toooon of pots and just stuck it in cause it felt very FOS. I guess I can be behind to like QTXX that doesnt want to raise flop but other than that.. Well I guess pair and higher fd is possible too.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487946 - Because I was busy loling at the guys last hand I didn't notice he lost another hand right after that and was shortstacked. If I had known, I'd have probably limped. As is, UTG's limp RR made me give him credit as a good player when really he just seemed to be a bit of an over-aggro. He c/red a ton it seemed.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487957 - Maybe these kinds of super dry flops are decent for checking AA** or TP behind, and bet with a more polarized range (ie set, 2 pair, air). They were superb cbet flops in hold'em but maybe not as good in omaha.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487971 - Too thin of a bet on the flop?
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487972 - ok.. So from these hands I'd say, leads his air, c/c's his strong but not nut hands and c/r is probably nuts or air :c Although I don't remember

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487931 - Ok, so uh, this was fairly unexpected imo. Thought for sure the only hand I had to worry about was QQXX.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/488004 - I'm not sure there's any point in continuing here.. With not much of a read, except that he has pretty aggressive stats, seen him around a bit.

I'm gonna try to do a lot of PT review (perhaps I need to wait until my sample is little bigger tho), to try to find a good range for BB defence and SB completion and just general ranges from the various positions. I've never really approached poker this way (always been a "play play play, learn from experience" type, with CR videos, forums, chatting to good players etc mixed in) but gonna give it a try, I know there's a couple of topics on 2p2 about PT review so I'm gonna spend some time reading those.

I also want to try to analyze some of the regs in the games, which - again - is something I haven't really done before (silly). Nothing too interesting here I guess, I really like omaha and I'm looking forward to really learning how to play it


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Gonna try to do one of these everyday, even though I didn't play much.


The W$WSF looks pretty ugly.. Hope it was variance :D I still didn't, as far as I can remember, do much 3betting preflop which is too bad. Next session I play I'll force myself to 3bet some hands and see how it plays. I'm really unsure about if 3betting hands like ATJK double suited or AJ9T double/single suited is a good idea or not and what to do if 4bet..



General:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487342 - Double gutted to the nuts /w possible 2 pair outs vs a halfpot bet.. I think call is ok?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487339 - I check turn because I feel that card has to be pretty good if he wants to bluff me off aces with his draw or turn some kind of hand into a bluff. I don't think he has better all that often. I'm a little surprised he didn't take a shot at the pot after getting checked to on the turn, on the river.. On the river I guess betting would be overrepping my hand as AAXX.. Nuros said in comments he liked the river check, but I wonder if there's any value in sort of depolarizing my range here (ie can someone go "well, he's either got AA here or he has complete airball, I call")?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487337 - c/r or lead in these spots? I tend to always lead and almost never get raised, then I get a semi-small pot on the turn where I have to pot again and get into awkward river spots etc.. Will people bet the flop enough for c/r to be better?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487322 - I think on this turn I have enough equity to call.. Just ran it through propokertools.com and vs a range of all sets + KJ I STILL have equity to call here (33.39% equity, getting 2:1). So add in some weird draws and maybe some other weird 2 pairs and I think call is good.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487321 - 3 handed, NFD + gutshot.. Probably fine.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487319 - Hmm, I should probably just pot river if I bet turn here? Like, either go all the way repping my hand or just give up. I guess it might have helped me get paid here tho: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487326

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487318 - Turn is sort of not awesome.. If he decides to stick it in here are we happy?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487314 - I was really torn between a 3bet and a flat here preflop, if I 3bet I get to put in a decent chunk of our effective stacks (assuming nobody coldcalls) but not enough to just happily stack off on any flop. I am suited once but /w no connectivity at all I decided to flat.. Is check ok here or too many people?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487313 - Hm, I think I should probably check this river just because my hand really doesn't look like a fullhouse all that much and he might still ship in a flush or bluff (because he thinks I have AA or something like that). I feel I should bet this flop because I raised oop and people might stack off really light.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487310 - I'm not sure if I made a mistake not betting here. On the one hand, I have likely 11 outs on a board where people are gonna give me a ton of respect and there's really not that many draws (and I have one of them), on the other hand - the ace of spades it not on the board and I'm never getting the NFD to fold unless I barrel 3 streets.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487561 - Early on in the session (in fact it might have been the first hand lol), I thought this flop would be ok to bluff raise.. When he just flats, should I fire turn to try to get him off a set or flushdraw? I considered betting river because I felt like the best hand he could have here is some kind of low straight BUT there's a draw that missed and with my turn check behind I would rep like... nothing. Maybe like, flushdraw with some kind of cards that rivered a higher straight. And I do beat a flushdraw, well, some flushdraws.
Folds:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/487340 - I think turn fold is sort of standard, it feels weird not being able to play this hand aggressively. Bejamin1 suggested I fold on the flop which I guess is best if I have to fold this turn/will run into a boat too often if I don't.. I guess with a more aggressive dynamic/image I could make raise/stack off here?

Ok so I guess this was it for todays session, there might have been a few others but its late and they were probably in small pots.


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I figure I should probably try to approach my learning omaha a little differently from how I approached learning hold'em, playing less tables and trying to look through sessions at least a little bit (and hopefully try to play every day.. yeah we'll see about that one ).


I'm happy that my W$WSF is slowly rising, I need to find more spots to 3bet preflop tho. I'm really scared of 3betting hands with an ace in them, like say, AJTQ (suited or not), because I'm not sure how I'm supposed to react if 4bet.. Leads to a bit too many check/folds from the blinds I think.


In addition, I decided to record an hour or so of play to submit to the Cardrunners "leak finder" series, if it turns out ok (still producing) I guess I'll use it, otherwise maybe I'll post it here and ask for opinions =] I wonder if the ski-slope effect coincides with me starting the recording!

Might try to make more videos (Deucescracked has a similiar series so maybe I can submit one there as well :D), just for my own review.

Hands:

A few pay-offs:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486762 - Ehh this is weird, I know my hand isn't super strong or anything but the only hand I could think of that he plays like this is 9T and I didn't think there were a ton of ways for 9T to get to the river.. In addition my hand might (maybe?) look more like a set of aces or something so maybe he turns some hand into a bluff.. Eh I dunno, would like opinions on what to do as a default in these spots when I don't know my opponent.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486739 - Bleh guess I should fold river, I've been trying to not fold as much (went to sd went from normal low 20s to 27 this session ) and my thinking was he could bet a flushdraw here too, I have a 9, he might lead kings etc. Yeah a bit too stationy.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486750 - I'm a little lost in these situations.. Given the river the call is fairly trivial imo but like say it blanks off completely.. I don't feel like I can continue betting turn really either, I guess a king could call 2 streets and I've got an easy fold if raised?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486733 - It feels like such a good card for him to just pot, pot once I c/c.. Meh. Q: preflop, how bad is it to call a raise with something like his hand, AAAX suited once?

Folds:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486837 - Mm, I was going to at minimum call vs only 1 player, but with the second guy calling I was sort of lost. Not only will I have a difficult time on A LOT of turns, but he could be slowplaying (since the flop is about as safe as omaha flops get for a set).. Is a call still mandatory?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486807 - Hmmm, given there's no special dynamic going at all (don't remember seeing him before, although my HUD stats were out of position for some reason so I thought he was a TAGgish guy, wondering why I didn't remember someone I had 800 hands on lol) can I raise the flop? Like, am I taking it too far trying to adapt to omaha from hold'em?
Is there any point in perhaps betting turn to get him off a low straight? Or is he just sandbagging KQXX too often here?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486881 - Should I assume my flush draw is live here? I don't think I had played with this player for very long at this point (but he seemed verrrrry aggressive later on, heh) and it feels very weird for him to make this raise on an A high board.. Could it even be a good idea to 3bet this flop?

General Qs:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486632 - I feel like checking here achieves the exact same result vs any boat and gives "bluffs"/weaker hands a chance to try to bluff me off aces or whatever. I think this is good..

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486626 - hm.. raise/stack off flop I think.. I have some outs, block the big sets and am in excellent shape vs all wraps and flushdraws.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486844 - HUGE missed value here.. I'm not sure about turn (he could still c/r some big draw here and I don't think I can call..?). River, hrm, I was worried about a c/shove but I guess he's gonna call me pretty lightly here as there's a lot of missed draws. I'd probably check river too if I checked the turn with a set here tho, but I guess most people wouldn't. I think I worry about "what if.."'s too much.
EDIT: actually thinking about this some more, I really don't think anyone is tricky enough to not bet turn here with a set. I really need to bomb turn and PROBABLY call off at this point... If he just calls I should probably bet river too, hm.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486744 - Fold pf? Flop is.. flushdraw, pair, gutshot..... I think I've gotta get it in although I suppose I should be worried about him betting 3 way..? Ugh, another thing is, is the guy coldcalling MORE or less reason for me to call a 3bet? Ya, better odds but I suppose my weak 2nd FD is hurt a lot by him being in the pot?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486840 - Raising this flop is awkward because it looks *SO* strong, but calling is also problematic since I'll let every set draw for free. I suppose it's important I do this kind of raise if I want to do it with the naked Ah...

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486609 - I didn't realize I had a set at first so I just checked quickly, but I think a c/r here is pretty good actually since if the 2nd guy has a bigger FD my c/r will (maybe) free up a bunch of outs for me and I'm ahead of the nuts here anyway.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486756 - Eh.. this is a little too loose UTG isn't it? Once I call tho (which, with position, stacks and the fact that I made a 3x open instead of pot, I have to) the hand is oh well, I think I've gotta play it like this?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486612 - Hm I'm thinking I shouldn't be doing these things without knowing them at least a little.. And I picked a pretty bad board for it. River is especially bad, the primary hand he'll fold is a flushdraw, which I'm ahead of. Oh well.

Some awesome hands:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/486622 - best flop peel ever imo.






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